Showing posts with label smart charger. Show all posts
Showing posts with label smart charger. Show all posts

Saturday, March 20, 2010

akari battery chargers in SM/ACE hardware

I found akari NIMH battery chargers in SM, ACE hardware to be exact. 3-4 models. At least 2 models have the negative delta V spec printed on the back. One costs 1300 pesos and has 4 slots, one costs 800 pesos and has 2 slots.

I dont have any pics and I dont have the exact specs but since SM stores are spread all over the country, this means that more and more of our citizens now have access to a reasonably priced smart charger, assuming this is real of course.

Sunday, January 24, 2010

powerbase c-421 - a broken example

The powerbase c-421 is probably the cheapest smart charger available in the philippines. 600 pesos, 2 AA, with trickle charge and individual charging channels.

The symptoms are the failure of the lights to consistently turn on when you plug the empty charger into 220v. If they do turn on, we tried  charging a few different known working batteries. The lights turned to red as it started charging but after < 1 min, it died.

Here are pics of the circuit board. There is nothing wrong  to the naked eye.




 

This one for some reason died 1-2 years after normal use by one of my relatives. Right now they are looking for a replacement. I suggested a Unomat UNO1900 because thats what I'm using now. Click here for the unomat PDF manual + specs.




So right now this broken charger is a paperweight. I'll make a few inquiries from electronics people but i dont think this can be repaired.

Friday, December 11, 2009

advantages of a smart charger

A smart NIMH battery charger is more expensive than a dumb charger. So why should I get one?


First, with a smart charger you can just plug the batteries in and forget about it, come back later and it will be fully charged. With a dumb charger to be exact you have to compute the time needed. What if you computations are off? What if your computations assumed that the cell was flat when it had 10% charge?

With a dumb charger either you undercharge or overcharge a battery. An undercharged batt will of course not last as long. An overcharged batt will also degrade faster and not last as long. Yes, you can slowly damage a NIMH battery if you overcharge it. How much damage? Well, I dont know.

Saturday, December 5, 2009

how to tell a smart from a dumb charger

How to tell if it is a dumb or smart nimh battery charger. But keep in mind, assume all chargers are dumb unless proven otherwise!


1. RTFM!!!! Yes believe it or not, reading the frigging manual or even the frigging box can tell you. If you havent bought it yet, just go to the manufacturer's website and see the specs or even download the PDF manual. There may be certain code words like


1.a. negative delta V, sometimes abbreviated as

- [triangle]V

  The triangle means delta or change in. Delta is used by scientists as a shorthand for "change in". The dash is a negative sign. V = voltage. So that means when a nimh battery is full the voltage it emits slightly drops (hence the negative delta). This is the signal for the charger to either stop charging or go to trickle charge mode.

update: sometimes instead of - delta V, the phrase used is "charging control method: Peak detection" or similar. Conversely, if under the charging control method, the value is something like "timer" or "nil" then its dumb.


1.b. timer. If the word "timer" or "timer shut off" is written and there are no other indicators, most likely it is dumb. A smart charger turns of or goes into trickle charge mode when the battery is full, thats the definition of a smart charger. A timer dumb charger automatically turns off after XX hours have passed, usually 12 hours, no matter what. This is just a safety measure to avoid wasting electricity and super overcharging (thats bad) the batteries if you left the charger plugged in and went on vacation or something. If on the other hand, it has "timer" and other indicators like # 1.a. then its smart.

1.c. look for charging tables. If there is a table that so and so MAH battery takes so and so hours to charge, be very careful because real men dont compute, they just plug in the charger and the smart charger takes care of stopping the charging.

1.d. the dont ask, dont tell policy. If the packaging or the manual says NOTHING about it being either smart or dumb, then assume its ghey ... este ... assume its dumb. So for every charger, assume its dumb unless the instructions say so

2. test it yourself. a smart charger will detect if the battery is full and stop. This is easier if the charger has individual charging channels. Get one half full and one drained  battery and see if the half full batt stops charging sooner than the almost empty batt. This is the main disadvantage of the powerbase 4AA smart charger versus unomat chart charger. The unomat has 1 channel per battery, the powerbase 4aa has 1 channel per 2 batteries but the powerbase 2AA has one channel per battery

2.a. charge 1 almost full battery and one empty battery and measure the time needed to full charge or for the charger to stop charging. Obviously the empty  battery will take longer to charge

2.b. charge an empty battery, measure the time it takes. unplug charger and remove battery. Wait several min for it to go to room temp. Charge it again and measure the time. This should take only a few minutes.

3. Price of the charger minus the price of the included batteries. If its cheap, most probably its dumb. the going price for 1 eneloop AA is 150+ pesos so minus the cost of the batteries from the total cost to get the price of the charger. A powerbase 2AA smart charger is probably 600 pesos, 900+ for powerbase 4AA and unomat 4AA costs 1000 pesos but it has individual charging channels so there is no reason to buy the 4AA powerbase. The powerbase and unomat chargers i mentioned come with AA/AAA nimh batteries. Since they are not LSD-nimh batteries, they are low cost so minusing their value from the total price of the charger still gives you a decent price. I've seen dumb chargers go for 100-300 pesos without batteries.


UPDATE: this is what the symbol for delta V looks like. Although usually the triangle is not smaller than the V



UPDATE: #2b or
2.b. charge an empty battery, measure the time it takes. unplug charger and remove battery. Wait several min for it to go to room temp. Charge it again and measure the time. This should take only a few minutes.
Seems to not always work. I've had reports of powerbase chargers failing just this one test. Must be a design flaw or something

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